Marillion – Faith

Marillion is one of my favorite bands and I’m watching the DVD for the Somewhere in London concert. This song is an interesting one to ponder and just a great song to listen to…

Marillion – Faith

What I have here in my hand
Is like faith but not faith
For those without faith also have
What I have here in my hand

What I have here in my hand
Is like feeling but deeper
It’s why I am here

What I have here in my hand
Is knowledge without proof
What I have here in my hand
This is what I feel for you

It’s why the earth is alive
It makes electricity work
And fire dance in the sky..

Feel it
Feel inside the atoms where the science breaks down
Feel inside the atoms where the science breaks down
If you don’t believe in love
You’d have to make it up
You’d have to make it up
You’d have to make it up

What I have here in my hand
Is like faith but not faith
What I have here in my hand
This is what I feel for you

What I have here in my hand
Is like knowing but deeper
It’s why I am here
It’s why I am here

6 thoughts on “Marillion – Faith

  1. Jeff,
    That’s how I guessed you age. You are still thinking with your hormones and not your logic. The circle of life is driven by creating the next generation, who will in turn create the next. And it is seductive to engage in the innocence of children and protecting them until they can survive on their own, it’s a natural obligation, but, it is yet another thing to imagine that you have not been seduced into the cycle without perceiving how it affects your perception. If the sum total of your perception of human existence is the fallacy of falling in love with a female, imagining with your hormones she will not divorce you and take all your belongings, and make you support all the kids while she pretends to go to school and learn how to be a greeter at Walmart, good luck to you. You, would be one in thousands.
    Good luck with romance. It has teeth like a tiger, and zero remorse.
    Norman Lycan

  2. There’s nothing wrong with love…

    John Lennon – Love

    Reaching, reaching love

    Love is real, real is love
    Love is feeling, feeling love
    Love is wanting to be loved

    Love is touch, touch is love
    Love is reaching, reaching love
    Love is asking to be loved

    Love is you, you and me
    Love is knowing we can be

    Love is free, free is love
    Love is living, living love
    Love is needing to be loved

  3. Is that what we are doing here, Jeff? Looking for guidance in the lyrics of popular songs? I’m sure I have not heard every John Lennon song, but, the one that moved me was “Imagine”. An anthem for freethinkers. A look beyond what we are into what we could be.
    Now, I would never attempt to say that you have not found the love of your life, and that your grandchildren will amass at the holidays and reward your elderly years with joy. Insufficient data. But, if your children suffer from depression, it becomes dubious. But I wish you the best, because even though you are young, I know you are the best and brightest of philosophers. The ones that hold the key to core rationality. The last hope of humanity, the imbalance of it’s knowledge and it’s wisdom. But, while you think it’s a hobby, it’s the pivot point of human survival. But, if you really love your woman, and she is a freethinker, too, throw that song away and play this for her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG97P3FDHrM.

    Norman Lycan

  4. This how it always goes, Jeff,
    I understand this website is not your job. But, at the very least it is your creation. You make some statement that a piece of music somehow embodies some truth. But, when countered with logic and evidence, the wires go silent. Now, you wait until the next inspiration that you will also not defend. It’s also not your job. You just state personal perception, and response is irrelevant. And that is why your website is a total failure, even though you sit upon the key of human existence. When differing ideas come in, they are not countered or even acknowledged. Just ignored. There is no debate, just what Jeff thinks, and nobody cares but me. And I think maybe I don’t care anymore either. You understand what agnosticism is, but, with your confusion about atheism, you have totally missed the point. It’s not about which philosophy will ultimately be proven right, it’s about which philosophy will provide an avenue for humanity not to inflict a fatal wound upon itself.
    Which is the harder sell to indoctrinated muslim populations? That god does not exist and the universe is an accident, or the real truth, that there is no way of knowing? The obvious is the latter. We have been entrusted with the key, but, it’s not a sacred secret, it is there for any freethinker to find and understand. They just have to open their eyes and their minds. But, it’s not your job, so you can watch the futures of your children and grandchildren evaporate.
    It would be so easy to fix, if god would just die like we do, but his myth is buried deep in our collective ignorance. What we need is a leader who is youngish and perceptive, with a new perspective, agnosticism, with a will to offer a new perspective on human society that does not condemn religion, but, promotes human solutions to human issues. Who seeks no wisdom from ancient scriptures, but, who understands that in the pursuit of knowledge, the question “can we”? should always be tempered with, “should we?”.
    Jeff, I would vote you to just such a position if you weren’t such an apathetic turd. I don’t understand how you can perceive what you do and be so idle.

    Norman Lycan

  5. Science doesn’t help explain our most complex thoughts and emotions. Love is just a kind of thought built up from basic emotions but it’s a nice thought and it’s a nice collection of emotional impulses. The people that believe in gods despite the evidence might just be trying to keep a feeling of love in their minds but their love is misplaced on an idealized fiction. Love isn’t a bad thing and I think it can be grounded in reality. It’d be better to promote a love for one another and humanity instead of love for supreme beings we can’t possibly know as any kind of truth.

  6. Jeff,
    Yes science does explain everything about love. In a heterosexual relationship, you are mutually attracted to each other, and through life experience, have developed a self image about how attractive you are as a person in your particular society. In response to that self image, you go in search of the optimum you will realistically be able to attract. Who will in turn accept you as the optimum of physical attraction she can hope to attract. It’s a mechanism of evolution and survival of the fittest. If you were a midget with other genetic deformities, you would never have been considered by your soul-mate.
    Love of your children is also clearly explained by science. Most, though, not all species of animals protect their offspring. The same instinct as what you call love. Some species produce to many offspring that threat of extinction by predator is irrelevant. But, I know of not one single mammal that does not rear it’s young and ferociously protect them. Not that they don’t exist, I’m no biologist. But that is the love you feel, it’s evolution, not magic. It’s a vital function of survival, not something spiritual. It’s not wrong to experience it’s orgasm, but it’s naïve to not see it for what it is, freethinker.
    And what’s even more wrong, freethinker, is that the obligation that every parent feels toward their children, to give them a better world to live in than the one we had, is sitting in your lap, and you think its a hobby. Time to wake from your coma. Nuclear midnight is on the doorstep, for you AND your children, and the entire human race. The only thing that MIGHT save us is reason. And you absolutely know, Jeff, that the ultimate form of reason is agnosticism. No assumption, no religion, just pure reason.

    Norman Lycan

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