Speaking For Myself… About You
I’ve been pretty busy and haven’t had time to post very often but this comment to a previous post gave me a chuckle so I wanted to provide a response.
You: “out out of all of these possibilities I don’t think it’s enough to just say that I don’t believe in any of the human defined theisms. I think it is much more honest to say that all of humanity definitely doesn’t know.”
Since when is it more honest to speak for all of humanity instead of just yourself? That sentence didn’t make sense to me.
I don’t speak for all of humanity but I definitely have an opinion of truth, our collective knowledge, and our ability to know the truth. If my viewpoint is confined to my own limits of knowledge then I’m just a fence-sitter that hasn’t yet heard the right truth from my fellow humans. I don’t think any of you have the answers to my questions about existence since I don’t think any of us possess the ability to understand. I may not speak for you but I do believe you share in my condition of ignorance. If I spoke for you I’d be compelled to have you believe as I do, and I honestly don’t care if any of you do.
You: “Even though I’m without theism (a-theist), that is why I use the Agnostic label.”
I use both (agnostic atheist). But for short I say “atheist” because in most cases agnosticism is a given (as in: you can’t be absolutely certain about anything).
Also, not bringing up the agnostic label might just help avoid the brain-in-a-vat discussion.
I can have reasonable certainty of many things starting with my own existence as well the existence of the wife and children I love. My certainty also includes religion and the supernatural. Whatever real truth is out there, I am certain we are too simplistic to know it. A completely natural universe that just came to be in a big bang is an interesting theory of our beginning, but I find it hard to believe that it’s the complete story. There may just be more than this that we just don’t know and can’t understand.
It may just be that I’m dreaming and I’m simply a brain-in-a-vat and none of this is truly real. LOL
August 17th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
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December 5th, 2010 at 1:56 am
Is it necessary to know the beginning?
December 6th, 2010 at 12:27 am
I think that you showed some great humility in this post. I agree that as humans we are limited in our views and understanding. Also if there is a God would he still be God if we could fully understand him and define him? For Him to be God he has to be greater than us. I think by looking around everything is to organized to say that there is not something that created all of this. This leads me to my next question, if there is a God then would he want us to have a relationship with him? If yes, then why wouldn’t he make a way for us to be able to somewhat understand who he is and what he had done for us. Christianity seems to have a good explanation for this. God wanted humanity to have a relationship with Him so he sent His Son Jesus to make a way for them. I know that a lot of people will just ride this off as some mythical religion that never happened but what if it did, doesn’t it make sense that the creator would want to have a relationship with his creation?
December 12th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
So is Christianity the only limited response. We can’t look into Islam , Judaism and other monotheistic religions as an explanation. I find that a lot of Christians remain completely ignorant of other religions.
December 12th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
So tell me how I’m suppose to feel when god spoke
When he ain’t neva had to struggle ain’t neva been broke
Ain’t even roll through the ghetto ain’t neva been close
Trustin’ this religon like trustin’ the devil in oath
A rebel with quotes
revised excerpt from J.Cole-I get Up