The Streets – Alleged Legends

The Streets – Alleged Legends

Some people live their lives by a little red book
The points for right lying out and guides them good
They never really mimic every word by eye
‘Cuz if they did they’d be in a whole world of strife
The book’s quite old school, but then it was tough
It contains some quite experimental justice
The thinking people are thinking that without this book
That without these verses we’d pillage and murder but,
Following this red book word for word
Leads you to actually pillage and murder
Could it be so what we think to be right,
Is simply the opinion that survived?

Do what you think’s right, and you will feel alright
‘Cuz when you’re bad you will feel sad
That’s the religion I live by

There’s a bloke in the book who made everything
He knows every individual and every trick in them
Way above emotion, never getting stressed
But when men choose against him, gets jealous
People fight for him in crippling wars
But since he has the power of infinite awe
We’re merely itching on futilities floor
Should we really be needing to assist him at all?
If he loves us all, knowing all we think
Should he only like people with faith in him?
Given I can’t control what I truly believe,
Can I be forgiven for only believing who I see?

Do what you think’s right, and you will feel alright
‘Cuz when you’re bad you will feel sad
That’s the religion I live by
Do what you think’s right, and you will feel alright
‘Cuz when you’re bad you will feel sad
That’s the religion I live by

Could it be time to avoid this bush?
So we wouldn’t be blind when joining up coulds
Could we see both sides of the coin for the good?
Breed less strife on our voyage for good?
Getting threatened by men with questions
We’ll never get anywhere rejecting evidence
Could we test everything instead of betting,
On alleged legends?
If we teach that it’s right to blindly believe
If we reach to the sky to define our meaning
Well I agree what’s right will keep driving people to fight with people

Do what you think’s right, and you will feel alright
‘Cuz when you’re bad you will feel sad
That’s the religion I live by

Faithless Agnostic

Quoting from Thomas Henry Huxley

They were quite sure they had attained a certain “gnosis,”–had, more or less successfully, solved the problem of existence; while I was quite sure I had not, and had a pretty strong conviction that the problem was insoluble. So I took thought, and invented what I conceived to be the appropriate title of “agnostic.” It came into my head as suggestively antithetic to the “gnostic” of Church history, who professed to know so much about the very things of which I was ignorant. To my great satisfaction the term took.

I said in my last post that I believe we are all agnostic and the unknowing trait of humanity is a universal truth to me.  That doesn’t mean that there aren’t many people that think they do know and believe they do have the answers.  Even those that claim they don’t have knowledge and only proclaim a faith make a claim of knowledge by defining what it is they have faith in.  It’s kind of hard to claim we “don’t know” when you start talking about specific traits of the god you believe in even if your belief is based only on faith and not actual knowledge.

So how could you be a truthful agnostic if you claim to be an agnostic with faith in a specific god?  Even though I do now accept the definition that knowledge (agnosticism) and belief (theism) are two different topics that doesn’t allow for agnosticism to stand alone, I still see an incompatibility with theism if you’re being honest about your labels.

If you’re a god believer and your belief isn’t based on knowledge then why the heck would you feel the need to believe something like that?  I can’t in good conscience make a leap of faith for something that has no basis in knowledge.  Knowledge doesn’t even have to be exact and complete.  If you say that something is true to your knowledge or to the best of your knowledge, you mean that you believe it to be true but it is possible that you do not know all the facts.  How can you have faith if you can’t even make that small claim of knowledge?  If all you have is faith without knowledge then aren’t you basing your faith on an unjustified and potentially false belief?  Shouldn’t you desire the justified true belief that is knowledge?  I certainly do and is why I believe the path for truth in life is to remain a faithless agnostic.

Closing thoughts from Thomas Henry Huxley:

I have no doubt that scientific criticism will prove destructive to the forms of supernaturalism which enter into the constitution of existing religions. On trial of any so-called miracle the verdict of science is “Not proven.” But true Agnosticism will not forget that existence, motion, and law-abiding operation in nature are more stupendous miracles than any recounted by the mythologies, and that there may be things, not only in the heavens and earth, but beyond the intelligible universe, which “are not dreamt of in our philosophy.” The theological “gnosis” would have us believe that the world is a conjuror’s house; the anti-theological “gnosis” talks as if it were a “dirt-pie” made by the two blind children, Law and Force. Agnosticism simply says that we know nothing of what may be beyond phenomena.