John Lennon – Imagine

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Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today…
Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace…

You may say i’m a dreamer
But i’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world…

You may say i’m a dreamer
But i’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one

The Agnostic viewpoint frees us from the shackles of servitude for a dreamed up God and should let us focus on the really important things in life: each other. John and his dreams are sorely missed by this world…

XTC – Dear God

Dear god,
Hope you got the letter,
And I pray you can make it better down here.
I don’t mean a big reduction in the price of beer,
But all the people that you made in your image,
See them starving on their feet,
’cause they don’t get enough to eat
From god,
I can’t believe in you.

Dear god,
Sorry to disturb you,
But I feel that I should be heard loud and clear.
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears,
And all the people that you made in your image,
See them fighting in the street,
’cause they can’t make opinions meet,
About god,
I can’t believe in you.

Did you make disease, and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!

Dear god,
Don’t know if you noticed,
But your name is on a lot of quotes in this book.
Us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look,
And all the people that you made in your image,
Still believing that junk is true.
Well I know it ain’t and so do you,
Dear god,
I can’t believe in,
I don’t believe in,

I won’t believe in heaven and hell.
No saints, no sinners,
No devil as well.
No pearly gates, no thorny crown.
You’re always letting us humans down.
The wars you bring, the babes you drown.
Those lost at sea and never found,
And it’s the same the whole world ’round.
The hurt I see helps to compound,
That the father, son and holy ghost,
Is just somebody’s unholy hoax,
And if you’re up there you’ll perceive,
That my heart’s here upon my sleeve.
If there’s one thing I don’t believe in…

It’s you,
Dear god.

There are many more visible reasons in the world to not believe in any gods than there is to believe gods exist. One great question in the song is: “Did you make mankind after we made you?” Of course I would say the answer is yes. Our existence cannot be so easily explained as having been created by such a silly notion of a deity as some people believe.

Nine Inch Nails – Heresy

He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see
He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He?s got the answers to ease my curiosity
He dreamed up a God and called it Christianity
God is dead and no one cares
If there is a hell I’ll see you there
He flexed his muscles to keep his flock of sheep in line
He made a virus that would kill off all the swine
His perfect kingdom of killing, suffering, and pain
Demands devotion, atrocities done in his name
God is dead and no one cares
If there is a hell I will see you there
Your God is dead and no one cares
If there is a hell I will see you there
Drowning in his own hypocrisy
Burning with your God in humility
Will you die for this?

No, I will not die for a story of a dreamed up God. Those stories answer nothing. My curiosity keeps me Agnostic and my mind free. – The O’Reilly Factor – Talking Points – Merry Christmas, Maybe…

It is now time to draw the line, ladies and gentlemen. We must decide whether we value our heritage or not. Make no mistake about this. “Merry Christmas” is an emotional, but small issue. The drastic change the secular progressive movement wants in this country is the big issue.

Those people want an America free from spirituality and judgments about personal behavior. And they may get it. – The O’Reilly Factor – Talking Points – Merry Christmas, Maybe…

Yes, it is now time to draw the line and I hope my fellow unbelievers use intelligence and reason in this supposed War on Christmas. Brian Flemming has responded with this:

“Christian conservatives complain nonstop about the ‘War on Christmas,’ but there really isn’t any such war,” said Beyond Belief Media president Brian Flemming, a former fundamentalist Christian who is now an atheist activist. “So we have decided to wage one, to demonstrate what it would look like if Jesus’ birthday were truly attacked.”

Beyond Belief Media Declares War on Christmas

I hope that Brian’s war remains tongue-in-cheek and never becomes a true reality. I don’t want an America free from spirituality or Christmas, I just want a free America where believers and unbelievers are equally free to be themselves.

In a free America you will be told “Merry Christmas” by lots of people and that is just fine by me. I take it as meaning the same as the “Happy Holidays” from an unbeliever. I may not believe in Christianity but the spirit of Christmas as a secular American holiday is a good tradition that promotes family and love. The Christ in Christmas can be easily avoided by any unbeliever and I think the holiday is just fine the way it is. I don’t think we need to trash Christmas just because some aspects of it are Christian.

I have a Christmas Tree because that’s what I’m used to calling it since I do have some Christian relatives. Christmas is symbolized to me by lights on houses, decorated trees, and Santa Claus. None of of these things scream Christianity. Nonbelievers can easily enjoy a secular Christmas holiday.

I am not shocked by a nativity scene since a majority of people might like these things. It means nothing to me so I don’t dwell on it. I’d prefer my tax dollars not go towards such things, but it won’t kill me if it does.

Unbelievers should share in the fellowship and love of the season. The roots of many Christmas traditions go back to the Pagans, so the holiday is presently just a mismash of various traditions from and outside of Christianity. It doesn’t matter to me what we call it as long as we join together with our community and let everyone be themselves. I support the ideal of the American Christmas and don’t care about the Christian Christmas.

I don’t want In God We Trust on our money or One Nation, Under God in our pledge, but the celebration of Christmas and observation of it as a federal holiday does not force me to display a belief in Christianity. I’m still free to sit around on Christmas and say the Christian God is a myth if I want to do that. However, I’ll be too busy with presents from Santa Claus for my children and celebrating a day of family and love.

I think trying to take away the current Christmas in its jointly secular and religious form is the same as telling kids that since many adults don’t believe in Santa Claus they can’t believe in him either and they won’t be getting any presents any more.

Here and There : Agnosticism

My fervent wish now is that more or less the same sense of alertness and preparedness be given to the far more dangerous and destructive spiritual illnesses and moral aberrations that threaten us just as much as the bird flu.

Among these spiritual and moral viruses that threaten us is agnosticism.

Agnosticism – The Bohol Chronicle

Actually, I think of Agnosticism as the cure for the fog of religious faith that is the true spiritual and moral virus of the mind.

Basically, agnosticism is the attitude or belief that one cannot be sure if God really exists. There may be God, and because of that, there may be some absolute truths, but these cannot be known for sure by us.

This is how the Catechism describes it:

?Agnosticism assumes a number of forms. In certain cases the agnostic refrains from denying God. Instead agnosticism postulates the existence of a transcendent being that is incapable of revealing itself, and about which nothing can be said.

?In other cases, the agnostic makes not judgment about God?s existence, declaring it impossible to prove, or even to affirm or deny.? (2127)

Still more: ?Agnosticism can sometimes include a certain search for God, but it can equally express indifferentism, a flight from the ultimate question of existence, and a sluggish moral conscience.

?Agnosticism is all too often equivalent to practical atheism.? (2128)

The author is sort of on track as to what Agnosticism really is. However, I think the possibility of his version of God existing is roughly equal to the possibility that Zeus and the Easter Bunny exists as well.

There also isn’t a flight from the ultimate question of existence. If an Agnostic didn’t dwell upon such a question then he or she wouldn’t think enough of the question to even put a label to their belief. I am Agnostic because the question is important to me and is important enough for me to say that humans do not possess the answer.

Agnostics have a sluggish moral conscience? I doubt that since we must evaluate each situation for moral consequences and the impact to ourselves and the societies that we take part in.

The danger of this mentality is that it brings one to the road of relativism. Everything can be held to be more or less OK. The ultimate deciding factor is simply one?s personal judgment, without any objective, universal criteria to guide him.

No, everything can only be held as OK in an anarchy where morals are not relative because they just don’t truly exist. In a proper society relative morality is not driven just by one’s personal judgement. Instead the universal criteria that guides us is our society. This does mean that what is good in the United States is different from what is good in other countries. What is acceptable behavior for my family could be different than for your family.

Obviously relativism is not only real but is really how humans on this planet actually function. All Christians do not follow the same absolute truth of morality and there are different rules for different believers.

Agnosticism takes place when one does not make any serious effort to use his spiritual faculties of intellect and will properly. Instead of focusing them on God, they are focused only on some purely material or human things.

This in turn can have many explanations. There could be an element of some human weakness and limitation that is left uncorrected, or laziness, or worse, pride, especially intellectual pride, or being dominated by vices and malice, etc.

Agnosticism is the ultimate use of free will. I have the will to reject the mythology of my parents. You say I have free will except when it comes to having to believe in your view of the universe and its creation. I am focused on the whole of the universe and I have no intellectual pride about it. I know we do not have the answers and we are just simple beings that are perhaps forever unable to understand it all.

The insane focus on God instead of human things is what gives us suicide bombers killing themselves in the name of their God. If they were focused on human things they would realize what a waste such activities truly are just as any wars or killings in the name of a belief.

In the end we will all die and all of our questions will be answered, either with increased knowledge or absolute silence. In which case, your firm belief in one view sets you up for major disappointment when that view is proven wrong. My belief gives me no troubles now and does not set me up for any sort of failure in the future here or “there” as you may suggest.

In the practical side, it comes when one fails to pray, and to develop a truly personal relationship with God. This is true especially with many nominal Christians. They fail to contemplate God even as they work or play.

It is in these areas where the solutions to agnosticism can be devised and implemented. We need to come out with effective strategies to tackle the ever-present threat of agnosticism in our midst.

I contemplate all of the universe and am in awe at the simplicity and the complexity of it all. We are of this universe and I do not believe we can know what caused it to be. A being as overlord of it all with human emotions such as a demand for our belief and love is not something I see. What would cause such a being to exist with the intellect and ability to create this universe? Why would “he” reward us for belief and punish us for not knowing him? It just doesn’t make sense.

Your life is not better or worse than mine just because you have a big powerful imaginary friend on your side. It may give you comfort and that is why you think not believing in your little friend is a threat. You lose that false security blanket and think you’ll be left alone in this big mysterious universe.

The answer is that none of us are alone. We have families, friends, and communities that help us just as we help them. Your imaginary God friend does nothing for you but make you feel like you have someone helping you. He does nothing real in your time of need. Agnosticism is only a threat to believing in imaginary friends, it is not a threat to family, friends, or community. Religion is the true threat that can divide people from each other if we believe so much that we let it.

I find it sad that the author compares the belief in the Agnostic viewpoint to the real threat of the bird flu.